First let me say that not every Atheist believes or says this. I will also say that I know some dumb butt Christians. Those would be people who profess to follow Jesus but don’t use their noggin in the slightest. There are smart Atheist and Christians and then there are also dumb Atheist and Christians.
Now there is a fairly popular Atheist site at the moment that asked the question, “Why do Christians insist that Hitler was an Atheist.
This blogger claims that Hitler was a Catholic. To this I say who really gives a rats butt whether he was Catholic or not. To be Catholic doesn’t prove one iota whether or not somebody is a follower of Jesus.
This blogger also claims that Hitler was baptized in the Catholic church. Who does the Catholic normally baptize? Answer: Infants. How many infants where baptized in the New Testament? (0) Zero. There is no biblical basis for baptizing infants.
A direct quote from Hitler, “I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord’s work.” What work was that? Killing Jews? If I remember correctly wasn’t Jesus a Jew who was killed? Why would he want to kill Jews?
What is Jesus’ character like? He is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Which of these was Hitler guilty of?
Hitler may have not been an Atheist but he sure wasn’t a Christian either. Hitler has no evidence for being a follower of Christ. Evidence is not just words, they must be words backed by action. Hitler was a prideful murderer who did not walk with Jesus.
Dumb Atheist quit being dumb. Smart Atheist, you are alright by me.
I don’t get Atheists. I think it’s fine for someone to have their own beliefs, but I don’t see why they need to tell everyone else that their beliefs are wrong. Obviously each religion is entitled to believe that theirs is the only true one, but if people don’t believe in God, why don’t they just become Agnostic and leave their thoughts to themselves?
I see what Atheist want to give their POV but my problem is when they lump every Christian in the same bucket. Some even just go ahead and lump cults and Christians together. It is a bit aggravating.
as a relatively new atheist i’ll give my impression on the issue. The reason atheists talk so much is the simple fact that religions have killed and threatened unbelievers for centuries…. If you want freedom from religion, the first step is to show just how much influence religion has. Anyway… most atheists have had Christians try to convert them to their denomination (and its not just Christians, also Muslims, etc). So you can’t really blame them speaking back and trying to explain what they believe.
Thanks for sharing your views Grant. I would never try to convert an atheists to my denomination but I do know that such people exists.
I’d first like to say that I’ve been an Atheist since I was 12 years old (I’m now 19). To Brad, are you serious? How can you even make that statement? Christians (most, not all) are forever trying to convert people to or argue their religion. Yes, Atheists do it a lot too but that’s only because we’re trying to help religious people think logically instead of believing in closed-minded fairy tales…
Read Matthew chapter 28 and you will see why Christians make disciples. We are to make disciples, not converts.
Christians are not judged Christians by their works. Anyone can call themselves a Christian but without the necessary revelation and faith they are just as dead as any Atheist. It’s hard not to judge people by their works, but it happens. Hitler did some very very ultimately evil things. If he died without faith then he died for all time. I wasn’t down there in the bunker with him though in his last moments and so therefore have no right to judge his salvation. But you know, conversely, you can do great and good works all your life and if you die without faith then you will be just as dead as Hitler was if he died without it.
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Gryph I know that we are saved by grace but once we are saved their should be some kind of evidence of salvation.
MATTHEW 25:31-46
31″When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34″Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37″Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40″The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’
41″Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44″They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45″He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46″Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
The picture in the post proves that he didn’t feed Jesus, in fact he purposefully starved Him.
We are not saved by good works but our faith should push us on to them. Jesus said that He didn’t come to be served but to serve. If we are to be like our Master then I think this applies to us also.
Also This Is What James, Jesus half-brother, Has To Say:
JAMES 2:14-26
What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? 15Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. 16If one of you says to him, “Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? 17In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
18But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.”
Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.
19You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
20You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[d]? 21Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[e] and he was called God’s friend. 24You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.
25In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? 26As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.
Sorry for all of the scripture. I know it isn’t our place to judge people. But the evidence against Hitler shouts out at us.
I believe that if you have faith then it will be apparent by your works, even if it is so little as simple love of a stranger in distress. I believe that faith will create works in your life and the works will be a sign to others. Conversely you can create great works with no faith and people might assume that by those works that you are assured of immortality. This is a wrong assumption. To assume that a person is redeemed by their good works is just as wrong as assuming they are damned because of evil works. Both are wrong for the same reason–no allowance is made for their faith which is objectively unknowable.
Hitler was an extreme example, I admit. In my flesh I would bet he is in hell. But the spirit which is in me prevents me from passing absolute judgement.
faith without deeds is useless because faith demands faith filled deeds, but they (the deeds) are not proof of faith. The only proof of faith lies in the self-revelation of the Holy Spirit. We are baptized as signs unto humans that we belong to one or another denomination. Deeds good or bad are signs only to men. Only God knows what is in the heart.
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Just to let people know, many atheists only let people know that Hitler was a Christian because Christians attack atheists saying Hitler was an atheist. We merely point out the truth, he was a Christian. Most of us know that not all Christians are like Hitler and Hitler didn’t do what he did because of his christianity, but in the end of the day he was a Christian, and this is historical fact. And like i said, we only point this out to refute the claim he was an atheist which some conspiracy theorist groups started as anti-atheist propaganda.
Just because somebody says they are Christian doesn’t make it so. To be a Christian is to be like Christ. Hitler was not like Christ so therefore he was not a Christian. He was a master at propaganda though.
I am not saying he was an Atheist but I am saying that he manipulated people into believing he was a Christian. Being a Christian has nothing to do with being Catholic. Like I already said, it has everything to do with striving to be Christ-like.
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